Queen Cutlery History
Complete Guide to Queen and Schatt & Morgan Knives and History
Queen Cutlery History is a comprehensive, informative resource for anyone interested in Queen City Cutlery Company and its successor, Queen Cutlery Company. In addition the website features information on the related companies, Schatt & Morgan and the Dollar Knife Company. For the first time, knife collectors and historians have access to a knowledge bank of knife photos and descriptions, historical documents, catalogs and articles related to these legendary cornerstones of the American cutlery industry. Our only focus is on knives made in the USA.
In 2018, having produced high quality cutlery using traditional methods for 96 years, Queen Cutlery closed its doors for good. The curators of this website, David Clark, Linda and Fred Fisher and Bob Welch, had previously served as the Queen Cutlery Historical Committee and are now joined by Carl Bradshaw. We are supported in this effort by knowledgable Queen and Schatt & Morgan collectors from across the USA. The Daniels Family, last owners of the company have graciously donated all related historical documents from the old Queen website. We are grateful to Jan Carter, of iknifecollector.com for contributing the web domain.
⇒ We have looked back into the Historical Knife Spotlight Archive to focus on an article about the Queen Heavy Duty Jack knives. Previous Spotlight articles can be found in the Spotlight Archive. The entire collection of 2020’s Historical Knife Spotlights are now available in articles for you to check out and download.
⇒ All new Collector Questions & Comments appear here on the home page.
⇒ The Tang Stamp Guide has been updated yet again, to version 9 (October, 2023) – and now contains details on 101 stamps and markings! The guide also includes a supplement with the stamps used on hatchets, razors and scissors. Additionally, the earlier supplement on Dollar Knives, Robeson and Tuna Valley knives is also included. We welcome your questions, comments and suggestions. Contact us here.
Historical Knife Spotlight
Queen Cutlery’s Heavy Duty Jacks are in our Spotlight this month. These sturdy folding knives have their roots in the Queen City era (before World War II) and are anchored by the ubiquitous # 10 pattern. Sharing the same frame as the # 10 are the # 18 which has been referred to as both a “Heavy Duty Jack” and a “Spear Point Special”, as well as the # 40 “Heavy Duty Screwdriver”.
Aside from blades these three patterns all share common frames, back springs, liners, bolsters and pin configurations. All are 3 11/16 inches in length, with two back springs and nickel silver bolsters at each end.
Some early knives, from the Queen City era, have steel liners and pins but these were changed to brass after the company changed its name to Queen Cutlery in 1946. Likewise, at least some of the Queen City knives utilized carbon steel blades while Queen Cutlery blades were made of stainless steel. Handle materials were primarily either Rogers Bone or Winterbottom Bone and both were used before and after World War II. After 1959 many were handled in Delrin, also called “Frontier Bone” and “Imitation Winterbottom Bone”.
Where these three patterns differ is in the blade types. The # 10 always featured a clip main blade with a pen blade secondary. Pattern # 18 also had a pen, but the main blade was a spear point. As the name implies, the # 40 Screwdriver knife had a long, flat screwdriver blade with a cap lifter (bottle opener) above the tang. The main blade was a clip.
Queen didn’t publish catalogs prior to 1946 so it’s difficult to say with certainty in which year the # 10 and # 18 patterns were first manufactured. As noted at the start off this article, we have evidence, in the form of actual knives (see photos) of # 10’s bearing the Queen City tang stamp. All such knives this writer has seen have the Queen City (script) stamp, indicating production roughly between 1937 and 1945. Both of these patterns were included in the first catalog, oddly called number 82, of 1946. Both the # 10 “Heavy Duty Pattern” with crown and dots stamp and # 18 “Spear Point Special” with big Q stamp are pictured with blades both open and closed.
The Heavy Duty pattern name stuck through the 1969-70 catalog and starting with catalog 50 in 1972 it had been renamed “Farmers Clip” and that name stayed until 1982. There were no catalogs from 1983 through 1994 and in 1995 the name had been switched back to “Heavy Duty Jack” for its last appearance in a Queen Cutlery catalog.
Pattern # 18 had its own little section in Queen Catalogs through 1953.
Then, from 1954 through 1969-70’s edition it was relegated to a caption below the # 10 which read Same as above except with 2 5/8-inch Spear point blade instead of clip blade. In catalog 50 of 1972-78 a photo of it was again used and then it disappeared. Price lists as early as March 10, 1977 noted it as discontinued and remaining stock was being sold off.
The “Heavy Duty Screwdriver Knife”, pattern # 40, debuted in catalog 90 of 1954 and was last pictured with that name just two years later in catalog 92. The same exact knife re-surfaced in the 1972-78 edition, albeit with imitation Winterbottom Bone handles. In 1980 it had been re-incarnated yet again as the “Electricians Knife”, still at 3 11/16” length, but the screwdriver blade had been redesigned such that a wire stripper replaced the bottle opener on the screwdriver blade. The # 40 made its last appearance in 1982.
By 1995 the “Electricians Knife” had shrunk a little to 3 5/8”, had lost the lower bolster, added a bail and sported smooth black plastic handles. It was also cataloged as pattern T-29.
A new Historical Knife Spotlight is published each month. You can see past editions in the Historical Documents section of this website.
Queen Cutlery Identification Guide
Updated to version 9 (October, 2023)!
Tang Stamps – Blade Markings – Production Dates
The most comprehensive and extensively researched guide to Queen and Schatt & Morgan tang stamps and blade markings ever published has just gotten better! Version 9 (October, 2023) of the guide is now a 19 page document which displays over 100 distinct tang and blade markings used by the cutleries over a span of 126 years. Two supplements have been integrated into the Guide. One covers hatchets, razors and scissors. The other details additional brands made by Queen, Dollar Knives, Robeson and Tuna Valley.
This Guide was created by our editors and a group of collectors following the 2018 closure of Queen Cutlery. Markings on knives in their various collections, both tang stamps and blade etches, were photographed, in color and (with few exceptions) are included here.
In addition to the photos, an illustration of the stamp or etch marking is included . This is followed by a description and an accurately estimated time span during which that marking was used.
To view and download, just click the adjacent image.
Collectors Questions & Comments
Bruce B. Contacted us with a blade steel question: When did queen cutlery start using D-2 steel? And does the whittler #48 contain D-2?
QCH answered: Queen started using D2 steel in 2002. The #48CSB (carved stag bone) knives produced after that date had D2 blades.
Brian N. Asked about the bone jigging on a modern Schatt & Morgan lockback: I have a S&M swing guard lock back, 04111L, with handles that I do not know the proper term or name for. The spear point blade is stamped 2001 and etched Schatt and Morgan 1of 100. The handles are bone, the color of a overly ripe banana peel and the jigging is fine textured, almost in a narrow V shape. Can you please tell me the proper name for this handle and this type jigging? Thank you for your response.
After our team discussed this herringbone jig pattern, QCH replied: Queen produced over 100 variations of the swing guard folder over a 25 year period, beginning in 1992, including the 04111L lockback. That pattern number is specific to the Schatt & Morgan line. About 80% of these knives were either special projects or special orders, meaning just about 20% appeared in a catalog or flyer.
After our team discussed this herringbone jig pattern, QCH replied: Queen produced over 100 variations of the swing guard folder over a 25 year period, beginning in 1992, including the
04111L lockback. That pattern number is specific to the Schatt & Morgan line. About 80% of these knives were either special projects or special orders, meaning just about 20% appeared in a catalog or flyer. The variations included handle material, color and jig pattern (if any), as well as blade type (usually spear or clip). Some had a lower bolster and some were bareheaded.
It sounds as though your knife may have been one of these special orders or special project knives.
Nickolas G. wrote with questions: The #49 stockman with no tang stamp. Is this carbon steel? Why was there no tang stamp on these? Thank you for your time! This website is a fantastic resource.
QCH replied: The #49 first appeared in the 1954 catalog, long after Queen transitioned to stainless steel blades.
Tang stamps were not used from 1961 to 1971, likely dating your knife to that time period. See page 7 of the tang stamp guide.
Nickolas G. had still more questions: Thank you, Sir. When did Queen transition to Stainless? Did they only use stainless after a point? Is it a special stainless that isn’t brittle or better than most stainless? Or was this a way to save money? I did see that some if the older patterns are definitely carbon. Did they ever have this pattern in carbon with the winterbottom bone? If you can’t tell I’m new to the Queen brand. I did however visit the empty factory a few years back, during one of the GEC rendezvous.
Thank you for your time!
In closing, QCH wrote: You’re welcome. Queen started using stainless, at least in a limited way, in the mid-1920’s. After World War II most of their blades were using 440 C stainless. As mentioned earlier, the #49 pattern wasn’t introduced until 1954 or so. By that time virtually all blades were made with stainless.
If you would like to learn more, a great place to start would be Dr. David Krauss’ article, “The Rise & Fall of Queen Cutlery”, on this page.
Dave M. Used our contact form: Hello, I have a block letter Queen City hunter fixed blade I’m trying to find info on. It is not listed on the site. I can send photos. Thank you.
QCH requested a photo and received this, along with more from Dave: I’m trying to find the model number for this knife and was wondering if there were other sizes and variations. This is the basis for the GEC hunter knives and Bill Howard ran production for Queen for some time before starting GEC. Any help is appreciated
We also asked for the overall length and blade length of the knife, which we learned were 4 1/2 and 8 1/4”, respectively. Then responded: I polled the rest of our team. Some have seen knives like this but none of us own one. Queen didn’t publish catalogs until after WWII so we have no record of it.
The closest Queen pattern is the #73. I say closest because it has a flat ground blade and is bareheaded with 2 rivets and a bone handle. However your knife differs in that the blade is 1/2 inch longer and has a stamped steel, rather than cast aluminum guard.
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