Queen Cutlery History

Complete Guide to Queen and Schatt & Morgan Knives and History

Queen Cutlery History is a comprehensive, informative resource for anyone interested in Queen City Cutlery Company and its successor, Queen Cutlery Company. In addition the website features information on the related companies, Schatt & Morgan and the Dollar Knife Company. For the first time, knife collectors and historians have access to a knowledge bank of knife photos and descriptions, historical documents, catalogs and articles related to these legendary cornerstones of the American cutlery industry. Our only focus is on knives made in the USA.

In 2018, having produced high quality cutlery using traditional methods for 96 years, Queen Cutlery closed its doors for good. The curators of this website, David Clark, Linda and Fred Fisher and Bob Welch, had previously served as the Queen Cutlery Historical Committee and are now joined by Carl Bradshaw. We are supported in this effort by knowledgable Queen and Schatt & Morgan collectors from across the USA. The Daniels Family, last owners of the company have graciously donated all related historical documents from the old Queen website. We are grateful to Jan Carter, of iknifecollector.com for contributing the web domain.

⇒ See just below for a NEW Historical Knife Spotlight article on the Schatt & Morgan Heritage Series. Written by our own David Clark, this article covers the series by the man who inspired it and is rich in images. Previous Spotlight articles can be found in the Spotlight Archive. The entire collection of 2020’s Historical Knife Spotlights are now available in articles for you to check out and download

⇒ All new Collector Questions & Comments appear here on the home page.

⇒ The Tang Stamp Guide has been updated yet again, to version 9 (October, 2023) – and now contains details on 101 stamps and markings! The guide also includes a supplement with the stamps used on hatchets, razors and scissors. Additionally, the earlier supplement on Dollar Knives, Robeson and Tuna Valley knives is also included. We welcome your questions, comments and suggestions. Contact us here.

"photo of 4 Queen Cutlery pocketknives with burnt orange imitation Winterbottom bone handles against a black background"

Historical Knife Spotlight

Schatt & Morgan’s Heritage Series: Proposal vs. Reality

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by David Clark

Queen Cutlery planned to stop producing the popular Keystone Series of collector pocket knives after its twentieth and final year in 2010. Jennie Moore, sales manager at Queen, mentioned they were looking at ideas for a new series of collector pocket knives. I had come into the possession of two original Schatt & Morgan cutlery catalogs, one from 1903 and the other from 1907. My intention was to reprint these catalogs and make them available to collectors. The catalogs had been in the procession of the Matthews family, part of the original Queen City Cutlery ownership, since circa 1933. Joe and Betty Dial acquired them from Gerald Matthews a few years ago and then passed them on to me.

Schatt & Morgan Heritage Series, closed, with box, bareheaded jack, 2 blade, stag handles, Federal shield, spear and pen blades

I approached Queen with the idea of starting a new series of collector knives based on selected patterns from these two vintage catalogs. The catalogs would be included with of the first issue of a planned twenty-year series starting in 2011. These new knives would be marketed as the Schatt & Morgan Heritage Series. Queen accepted the proposal and planned to make the announcement at a news conference at the 2010 Blade Show and have the knife prototypes ready for the 2011 SHOT show.

This is a copy of the first suggested narrative announcement of the Heritage Series:

New Schatt & Morgan Knife Reproduction Series

Series Name: Schatt & Morgan Heritage Series

Narrative Introduction:

John W. Schatt and Charles B. Morgan started their cutlery business in New York City in 1895 as an import company named the New York Cutlery Company. Because the import tariffs of the 1890s made the importation of English and German cutlery expensive and unprofitable,  Schatt and Morgan, like many other cutlery importers, decided to start manufacturing. The partners took over the C. Platts & Sons Cutlery Co. plant in Gowanda, New York, after the Platts Company moved to Eldred, Pennsylvania in 1897.

The New York Cutlery Company prospered in Gowanda, however in 1902 they relocated to a new and larger facility in Titusville, Pennsylvania. The company incorporated in 1902 with the move to Titusville and changed the name from the New York Cutlery Company to Schatt & Morgan Cutlery Company. They began manufacturing in the new factory early in 1903.

In July of 1903 Schatt & Morgan published its first catalog from the Titusville factory. With both Mr. Schatt and Mr. Morgan on

the road selling, business was very good. The company published a larger and more graphically illustrated catalog circa 1907. These two extremely rare catalogs are being republished to initiate this Schatt & Morgan Heritage Series.

Queen Cutlery Company announces this new Schatt & Morgan Heritage Series, taking, from the pages of these two 100-plus year old catalogs, the pocket cutlery of the early years of the 20th Century. These reproductions will honor these old knives by closely reproducing the patterns, blades, bolsters, liners, handle materials, and finishes as much as we possibly can, including the use of the old, original pattern numbers. Collectors who purchase the complete first set will receive complimentary reproductions of both of the early catalogs.

Proposed Schedule to Launch Program:

  • Blade Show 2010 – Officially announce the program with printed literature, ads in Knife World and other publications.
    Also consider making the catalogs available for sale. 
  • Using knives from the followings catalog pages (either entire pages or only certain patterns from these pages) I am suggesting the following six-year production schedule.
    • January 2011 – Page 34 from Catalog No.1
    • Produce 500 each in ebony and bone
    • Produce pearl in lots of 20 on special order from a distributor
Schatt & Morgan first knife catalog, page 34
    • July 2011 – Page 85 from Catalog No. 2
    • Produce 500 each in rosewood and ebony
Schatt & Morgan second knife catalog, page 85
    • January 2012 – Page 33 from Catalog No. 1
    • Produce 500 each in cocoa, ebony and bone
Schatt & Morgan first knife catalog, page 33
    • July 2012 – from Page 21, Catalog No. 2
    • Produce 500 of each pattern in bone
Schatt & Morgan second knife catalog, page 21
    • January 2013  – from Page 18, Catalog No 1
    • Produce 500 of each pattern in cocoa, ebony and bone
Schatt & Morgan first knife catalog, page 18
Schatt & Morgan Heritage Series, bareheaded jack, 2 blade, stag handles, Federal shield, spear and pen blades, half polished
    • July 2013 – from Page 81, Catalog No. 2
    • Produce 500 of each pattern in rosewood
Schatt & Morgan second knife catalog, page 81
    • January 2014 – from page 27, Catalog No. 1
    • Produce 500 each in cocoa, ebony and bone
Schatt & Morgan first knife catalog, page 27
    • July 2014 – page 58 from Catalog No. 2
    • Produce 500 of each pattern in ebony
Schatt & Morgan second knife catalog, page 58
    • January 2015 – from page 20 Catalog No. 1
    • Produce 500 of each pattern in cocoa, ebony and bone as noted
Schatt & Morgan first knife catalog, page 20
    • June 2015 – from page 22 Catalog No. 2
    • Produce 500 of each pattern in bone
Schatt & Morgan second knife catalog, page 22
    • January 2016 – Page 26, Catalog No. 1
    • Produce 500 of each pattern in cocoa, ebony and bone
Schatt & Morgan first knife catalog, page 26
    • July 2016 – from Page 74, Catalog No. 2
    • Produce 500 copies of each pattern with handles as noted
Schatt & Morgan second knife catalog, page 74

Ideas for Advertising:

  • Use the 8 ½ X 11” format to announce the program. Include cuts from the old catalogs. 
  • Use some of the original S&M graphics.
  • Possibly use original knife box labels.
  • Announce in Knife World and other publications.
  • Issue miniature cards of the pages for each semi-annual series issued.
Schatt & Morgan Heritage Series, bareheaded jack, 1 blade, rosewood handles, Bowtie shield, clip blade, half polished

Schedule for Prototypes and handle material:

  • Set meeting with graphics consultant for February 2010
  • 1/1/2010 – Decide on the bone handle material (color and jigging).
  • 1/1/2010 – Get all setups completed for first year.
  • 3/1/2010 – Develop the draft of program announcements and graphic mockups.
  • Mid September – tooling
  • Nov. 2010 – start fabrication
  • Jan. 1011 – start shipping
  • 1/1/2011 – determine if iron liners and bolsters can be fabricated for future years patterns

This is draft copy from the Knife World editor, for their magazine announcement: 

Queen Announces Schatt and Morgan Heritage Series

(subtitle) Vintage S&M Catalog Reprints Now Available

“Queen Cutlery Company has just announced a new series of collectible knives that will be formally introduced in 2011. The new Schatt and Morgan Heritage Series will replace the Schatt and Morgan Keystone Shield Series, which is set to wrap up after a highly successful twenty-year run.

The Heritage Series, presented as “A 100 Year Legacy Reborn,” was developed by Queen Cutlery in conjunction with noted cutlery collector and historian David Clark, who has contributed to several publications on the history of Schatt & Morgan cutlery and The Dollar Knife Corporation (including Knife World articles and the currently available History of Dollar Knives with David Krauss). Clark, who has also displayed his collection  at various shows in the Eastern U.S., has made some remarkable discoveries in the course of pursuing his historical interests. One of the most recent involved a cache of original company records as well as the personal 1903 Schatt and Morgan catalog of founding partner C.B. Morgan – an edition that was previously unknown to collectors.

Discussions between Queen and Clark led to a very interesting suggestion: why not base the new Schatt and Morgan series directly on the two extant Schatt and Morgan catalogs, from 1903 and circa 1908?

That’s exactly what they’ve decided to do.

Beginning in 2011, the new Schatt and Morgan Heritage Series will offer groups of knives as they were illustrated in these original catalogs, a page at a time – meaning that a page will be chosen from either the 1903 or the c.1908 catalog, and every knife illustrated on that page will be reproduced in that installment of the series. With this approach, Queen Cutlery emphasizes the historical accuracy of the new series and gives collectors the opportunity to study the historic S&M line and anticipate new releases, as well as offering new possibilities for displaying their collections.

To take best advantage of these vintage catalogs, of course, collectors need to be able to obtain them; so Mr. Clark is making reprints of these catalogs available now, months before details of the first series knives will be announced to the public. The 1903 catalog checks in at 54 black and white pages, dressed in a black card stock softcover binding with an early Schatt and Morgan company logo impressed in gold. The c.1908 catalog features 130 semi-color pages with a card stock cover that has the Schatt and 

Morgan logo in red, reproducing the original cover. The two catalogs will be offered together as a package deal for the price of $55.00 plus shipping.

To obtain your own copies of the 1903 and c.1908 Schatt and Morgan catalog reprints, contact David Clark at loisandclarkcutlery.com. For more on Queen’s upcoming Schatt and Morgan Heritage Series, watch this space as more details are announced!”

Queen prepared two flyers for the 2010 Blade Show press conference

S&M Heritage series flyers 2011-2
S&M Heritage series flyers 2011

Epilogue

Queen produced only two years of the planned twenty-year Heritage Series. In 2011, seven knives, comprised of three different patterns and various handle materials, were produced in the first series.

  • Barehead jack, 2-blade
  • Barehead jack, 1 spear blade
Schatt & Morgan Heritage Series, bareheaded jack, 2 blade, stag handles, Federal shield, spear and pen blades, half polished
Schatt & Morgan Heritage Series, bareheaded jack, 2 blade, ebony handles, Federal shield, spear and pen blades, half polished
  • Barehead jack, 1 clip blade
Schatt & Morgan Heritage Series, bareheaded jack, 1 blade, rosewood handles, Banner shield, spear blade, half polished

The second series was issued in 2012. It consisted of six knives, represented by 3 different patterns, again in different handle materials. 

  • Swell Center “Woodsman” knife
  • Cattle knife
  • Serpentine stockman

The plan was to have a limited run of 300 per knife. Quality problems plagued some of the second series so actual production numbers may have been lower. Some collectors sent knives back to the factory due to quality issues.

Queen was sold to Ken Daniels in 2012. The new ownership did not continue the series most likely due to a discontinue business arrangement (disagreement) with the vender suppling handle material, the same firm supply handles for the Keystone and the File & Wire handles.

David Clark was born in the Ozark Mountains of north Arkansas; he graduated from the University of Arkansas, and settled in Georgia following military service. He practiced architecture in Atlanta until retiring in 2009.

David discovered that he not only loved cutlery history, particularly Shatt & Morgan and Queen, but also the research of the early men who started these factories and the cutlers that made the knives. Occasionally, he has contributed articles to Knife World Magazine focusing on these subjects. In addition he has reproduced two antique Schatt & Morgan catalogs.

A new Historical Knife Spotlight is published with some regularity on this website. Occasionally we will re-publish past Spotlights on the home page due to strong interest. You can see past editions in the Historical Documents section (see pulldown menu) of this website.

Queen Cutlery Identification Guide

Updated to version 9 (October, 2023)!

Tang Stamps – Blade Markings – Production Dates

The most comprehensive and extensively researched guide to Queen and Schatt & Morgan tang stamps and blade markings ever published has just gotten better! Version 9 (October, 2023) of the guide is now a 19 page document which displays over 100 distinct tang and blade markings used by the cutleries over a span of 126 years. Two supplements have been integrated into the Guide. One covers hatchets, razors and scissors. The other details additional brands made by Queen, Dollar Knives, Robeson and Tuna Valley. 

This Guide was created by our editors and a group of collectors following the 2018 closure of Queen Cutlery. Markings on knives in their various collections, both tang stamps and blade etches, were photographed, in color and (with few exceptions) are included here. 

In addition to the photos, an illustration of the stamp or etch marking is included . This is followed by a description and an accurately estimated time span during which that marking was used.

 To view and download, just click the adjacent image.

Collectors Questions & Comments

Bruce B. Contacted us with a blade steel question: When did queen cutlery start using D-2 steel? And does the whittler #48 contain D-2?

QCH answered: Queen started using D2 steel in 2002. The #48CSB (carved stag bone) knives produced after that date had D2 blades. 

Brian N. Asked about the bone jigging on a modern Schatt & Morgan lockback: I have a S&M swing guard lock back, 04111L, with handles that I do not know the proper term or name for. The spear point blade is stamped 2001 and etched Schatt and Morgan 1of 100. The handles are bone, the color of a overly ripe banana peel and the jigging is fine textured, almost in a narrow V shape. Can you please tell me the proper name for this handle and this type jigging? Thank you for your response.

Detail of jigging on Schatt & Morgan 04111-L lockback made in 2001. The bone handles have a herringbone jig pattern

After our team discussed this herringbone jig pattern, QCH replied: Queen produced over 100 variations of the swing guard folder over a 25 year period, beginning in 1992, including the 04111L lockback. That pattern number is specific to the Schatt & Morgan line. About 80% of these knives were either special projects or special orders, meaning just about 20% appeared in a catalog or flyer.

Schatt & Morgan 04111-L lockback made in 2001. The bone handles have a herringbone jig pattern.

After our team discussed this herringbone jig pattern, QCH replied: Queen produced over 100 variations of the swing guard folder over a 25 year period, beginning in 1992, including the 

04111L lockback. That pattern number is specific to the Schatt & Morgan line. About 80% of these knives were either special projects or special orders, meaning just about 20% appeared in a catalog or flyer. The variations included handle material, color and jig pattern (if any), as well as blade type (usually spear or clip). Some had a lower bolster and some were bareheaded.

It sounds as though your knife may have been one of these special orders or special project knives.

Nickolas G. wrote with questions: The #49 stockman with no tang stamp. Is this carbon steel? Why was there no tang stamp on these? Thank you for your time! This website is a fantastic resource.

QCH replied: The #49 first appeared in the 1954 catalog, long after Queen transitioned to stainless steel blades.

Tang stamps were not used from 1961 to 1971, likely dating your knife to that time period. See page 7 of the tang stamp guide.

Nickolas G. had still more questions: Thank you, Sir. When did Queen transition to Stainless? Did they only use stainless after a point? Is it a special stainless that isn’t brittle or better than most stainless? Or was this a way to save money? I did see that some if the older patterns are definitely carbon. Did they ever have this pattern in carbon with the winterbottom bone?  If you can’t tell I’m new to the Queen brand.  I did however visit the empty factory a few years back, during one of the GEC rendezvous.

Thank you for your time!

In closing, QCH wrote: You’re welcome. Queen started using stainless, at least in a limited way, in the mid-1920’s. After World War II most of their blades were using 440 C stainless. As mentioned earlier, the #49 pattern wasn’t introduced until 1954 or so. By that time virtually all blades were made with stainless. 

If you would like to learn more, a great place to start would be Dr. David Krauss’ article, “The Rise & Fall of Queen Cutlery”, on this page.

Dave M. Used our contact form: Hello, I have a block letter Queen City hunter fixed blade I’m trying to find info on. It is not listed on the site. I can send photos. Thank you.

QCH requested a photo and received this, along with more from Dave: I’m trying to find the model number for this knife and was wondering if there were other sizes and variations. This is the basis for the GEC hunter knives and Bill Howard ran production for Queen for some time before starting GEC. Any help is appreciated 

photo of a pair of bare headed Queen City fixed blade knives. One is handled in wood and the other has a linear jigging on bone.

We also asked for the overall length and blade length of the knife, which we learned were 4 1/2 and 8 1/4”, respectively. Then responded: I polled the rest of our team. Some have seen knives like this but none of us own one. Queen didn’t publish catalogs until after WWII so we have no record of it.

The closest Queen pattern is the #73. I say closest because it has a flat ground blade and is bareheaded with 2 rivets and a bone handle. However your knife differs in that the blade is 1/2 inch longer and has a stamped steel, rather than cast aluminum guard.

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